ves mashina Indesit WIDL106 Q9 - shema-RESENO

[majstorr]

ves mashina Indesit widl 106 sa mogucnosti susenja vesa. Odjednom puklo u masini i nista ne radi.Na plocici sa elektronikom crko trijak BTB16 na poziciji Q14. Na poziciji Q9 raspao se mali tranzistor u TO-92 kucistu i ne mogu da vidim oznaku.Oznaka na plocici EDT0118.11 Potrebna sema, unapred hvala!

[milan]

Ima na netu podatak za Q9 je Triac 600V 0.6A TO-92 MAC97A8

[jaro]

Bojim se da je tu nesto probilo u motoru, pa tek onda na ploci...

[darko080372]

Proveriti jos bravicu na vratima i grejac susenja.

[majstorr]

Hvala, ako moze link do seme nemogu da nadjem.Da vidim samo koja je zamena za trijak posto original tesko da moze da se nadje. Kako da probam bravicu.Grejac za susenje nije jer ta funkcija nije ni koriscena uopste. Da li postoji mogucnost da se bravica nekako premosti kao kod starih masina.

[milan]

Oznaka na plocici EDT0118.11

Gde je napisana ta oznaka, zbog seme pitam.

[majstorr]

Oznaka je napisana na ploci uz donju ivicu tamo gde se ubada na sredini bas, na strani komponenti.

[milan]

Jel to ova ploca,

[majstorr]

Da samo sto na ovoj nema oznake i donji red u sredini sa otpornicima kod mene u smd, ostalo sve isto original!

[darko080372]

Posto je ovo javni deo nemogu ti precizno reci kako se sve prespaja iz razloga sto ce to onda svi koji procitaju uzeti i sami prevezivati dok nespale sve sto se moze spasti na modulu.Zamenu za Q9 trijak mozes staviti i Z0107MA.Obavezno zameniti bravicu.Zameni i Q14 za koji kazes da je crko.Sto se tice brojeva modula trebalo bi postojati jos nekih oznaka.

[majstorr]

Molio bi ako moze na pp a shemu na mejl(dacu mejl ako treba na pp).Mislim da se po pisanju vidi da nisam majstor u pokusaju vec se ozbiljno bavim elektronikom. Ima na ploci nalepnica CODE :090215009097.02 SW:9.21.0
S/N:O0747501306 DSP:

[majstorr]

Evo i slike

[milan]

Poslusaj sta napise @darko080372 i zavrsi posao,
seme naci za te varijante je gubljenje vremena.

[NOVI]

Pozdrav,

na novoj ploči original oznaka ti je za Q9= ACS108 na istoj ploči ali starije verzije (po datumu) je stavljen ZO607
Inače Q9 ti je za napajanje bravice kao što ti je kolega napomenuao ,a Q14 ti je za sušilicu tj grijač sušilice
Shema se svodi na crtanje iste i mukotrpno traženje vodova -pogotovo ta verzija sa SMD elementima.
Ne radi se o tome da ti netko ne želi dati tvorničku shemu jer je nema ni za nas servisere.

[majstorr]

Zahvaljujem se svima na forumu, a posebno Darku zamenio sam ona dva trijaka i NTC otpornik i masina sada radi.

[steph_cha]

hello everybody,

i have the same problem, my washer machine displayed "door open".

So, i replaced Q9 triac (burned).
As advised me darko080372, i disconnect "door-lock" system before power on.
Voltage on pin 1-2 is now 220volts (look at pic door-lock). before replace-it, it was 170volts.

i try again to power on : same message "door open".

I did the mistake to reconnect the door lock system an power on again.
=> the door lock did an electric sound and i saw an electric flash near Q9.

Conclusion : the door lock is really out of service. I think Q9 burned again: i have the same voltage on pin 1-2 like before replace Q9 (170v)

i'll never plug again the door lock

Do you think i can test another way like replacing another triac ?
i don't speak serbian, so, why did you speak about Q14 ?

if you see my voltage tests, i only have 183v on pin 2-3. do you think i must have 220v on this test ?

here's details below of own my pbl.
Thanks by advance for your help.

door-lock


Voltage test on pin cables

Test 1:
check voltage on connector pin's, disconnect from door lock
between..
1-2 : 170v | 0Ω
1-3 : 3v | 0Ω
2-3 :183v | 0Ω

Test 2:
check voltage on connector pin's, switch-power* OPEN (*displayed "INTERRUPTEUR" in my draw)
between..
1-2 : 0v | 130Ω
1-3 : 192v | 0Ω
2-3 : 192v | 0Ω and 102Ω and 0Ω and 102Ω ... like that every 0,5sec

Test 3:
check voltage on connector pin's, switch-power CLOSE
between..
1-2 : 0v | 235Ω
1-3 : 0v | 300Ω
2-3 : 0v | 0Ω

Test 4:
check voltage on connector pin's, disconnect from door lock : AFTER REPLACE Q9 TRIAC
between..
1-2 : 220v | 0Ω
1-3 : 3v | 0Ω
2-3 :183v | 0Ω

Q9 before replace (1st time)


Q9 after replace


nice to read you !

[Stolle]

Q14`s mentioned, because it`s been dead. Q14 is used for drier (heater). I think, door lock should be replaced. On the PCB can be seen conductive dirt, and it should be cleaned. Glass brush, best.
Capacitor and resistor arround "102" on the picture, should be checked.
There are better experts, and they`ll be more helpful.

[darko080372]

Sve sam ja to rekao ali me u jednom nije poslusao da zameni bravicu.

[steph_cha]

hello everybody

i'm gonna clean-up the PCB so soon, order and replace defective components

Thanks @Stolle and specially @darko080372 for the good advices !!!